Rather than bombarding Tru with PMs that may be similar or typing about technical issues in our diaries this could be the place to mention any technical issues we are having with our new forum. I'll start.
Can the edit function be extended to 24 hours (maybe just for founding members if that's possible)?
How long would members like to be able to edit posts ? turning off member editing is usually an anti spam measure which is not a problem at the moment.
Maybe if spam becomes an issue unlimited editing could also be something people can earn through a certain amount of posts? For now it could just be for everyone, I think.
I have increased the edit time to a full 24 hours just to see how it goes
Thanks! I was going to reply to that earlier but had to check something first so I saved my draft and when I came back it was gone, both from the quick reply box and from the full one. Do you happen to know if it's hidden under a button somewhere?
I have not gone hunting around the draft settings much so I am not sure.
Thanks, Tru. Personally I think 24 hours is good. I lost a draft today too. It wouldn’t post so I clicked on save draft but when I went back later to try again it wasn’t to be found. It’s not something I would normally do so I don’t care much & if we can all go back & edit for 24 hours it probably won’t be an issue.
I would love to go back & edit at any time as I hate seeing my typos.
Definitely no rush with the draft thing. It is now my turn to have lost the like button. Also: the research thread is not just pinned but also locked so only mods and admins can post/reply. Was that intentional?
Edit: the like button has returned and apparently pushed itself on the last couple of replies. One less thing to worry about.
The idea with the research thread was just an explanation for the section, each article/research should have its own thread so they can be easily referenced and discussed individually rather than a super thread where everything gets mixed together
Gotcha, thanks.
9 times out of 10 the forum is working properly for me now. The 24 hour edit option is good, I think & the like button reappeared later the same day for me.
Cate asked about being able to edit anonymously, members with global moderator permissions can now remove the edited by tag on posts
Thanks Tru 😊
I just noticed that the Quick Reply now has all the options, rather than having to click on preview. Thanks, Tru.
Greetings, just getting started senior moment, forgot my new password! Tried to used the recovery link, but never received the email (that it said was sent).
Upside I made a quick note on my phone & found my login password.
Thanks for setting this up Tru, no small task I am sure.
I'd prefer no time limit, or as long as you can give us.
I am just feeling things out, so far the only problems I have noticed are the format I see, sometimes just lines not what it is supposed to be, and I have not figure out how to like messages. The format looks fine today, so maybe that one is fixed. I am sure it will get easier as I get used to it. Will post any ideas or suggestions that occur to me, but so far it looks pretty good!
Liking doesn't become available until you've made/replied to... I think it's 20 posts. You'll be there before you know it :)
I am not sure why the text only version shows up sometimes, I tweaked the cache settings to try and speed things up and reduce it happening, At this point I am not sure why it happens sometimes but I will do more if/when I figure out why.
The text only view only happens occasionally with me now :)
At least I know the text view works correctly, which is important for meeting accessibility standards.
Still having trouble with the lines appearing rather than the way it is supposed to look. Am I doing something wrong? Or is there some way I can fix this?
Got a screen shot of what I see, but can't figure out how to post it. Well, maybe I did...
(http://"C:\Users\rob\Documents\1AjunkA1\Food\ss.jpg")
Thanks rob, I am pulling my hair out trying to work it out, I am not getting anything in the error logs. on my own browser it happens occasionally but when I switch browsers it is ok. It also comes good if I refresh a few minute later.
I am not sure I am techy enough to find what is causing the intermittent fault. I tried changing the way the cache works but has not seemed to fix it, I will keep trying things but it may take some time to find the solution.
Just a thing I have noticed & it may not be the same for everyone. My messages take quite a while to send & I have to be patient so if you are sending a private message just press send or post & hold back a while to give it time. It will say when it is sent.
Also, if you tap on the home button it offers
Help
Search
Members
Recent posts
If you tap on the home button again it will then show you all of the headings, topics etc
I have had this issue as well. Thank you for the screenshot that was helpful! Tru we are so happy to have this forum...we will figure it all out!
Hey Tru, I really appreciate what you are doing. No criticism meant, you're doing great! And you certainly are more "techy" than I am.
I think the problem is getting less for me. I sometimes have the problem on other websites, that's why I wondered if it was something I'm doing.
As an experiment I have been switching from Chrome to Edge to Firefox when I get the plain text view & when I have it anywhere I have it everywhere. I just did it again as I had text only on Chrome & the same on Edge but on Firefox it was normal so I looked again at the other two & they had switched back as well. So now I can see the forum as it should be on all 3 platforms.
@Trusylver -I am so grateful for this forum & can't thank you enough! I am going to spend some time working out why I get text view rather than html but it's about 50/50 these days. I just go away & come back & often it's switched. Today it has been much better.
Marsia is going to have a "goof around" sometime & see if she can work out why it's happening. I found this site that might help. https://www.basedash.com/blog/why-is-my-html-code-showing-up-as-text
If I get to the computer service place this week I'll ask them to look at it for me. Usually when I log onto my computer I see text only but it rights itself within an hour.
The New Posts tab doesn't work for me no matter what view I'm in & I usually use the diaries bookmark I have saved to view diaries & then the little green "new" is visible & I go to them that way. I don't know if this happens to anyone else.
Thanks for all this!
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason why I get text view so often. It switches backwards & forwards a lot. I'll be posting in the text view & then when I click on post it's switched again & that can happen many times. Does that happen with many people?
I wish I knew someone here who could have a look for us. It's probably an easy fix if you know how, like most things. If_you_know_how - I don't have a clue.
I love how easy it is to drag & drop a photo when you click on reply, rather than quick reply & I think that works even in text view.
It could be related to server speed or general internet slowness. When the internet is slow on other sites I see the text version more often
I had never seen it before. It’s a mystery.
Liza posted this in her diary, which I had trouble reading as I had been switched back to text view, but thought I would just copy and paste as is-
"ps i think one of the funny technical issues is that some of us cannot view the 'general discussion' section when logged in...which includes the 'technical issues' section...that means we can't post technical issues...I don't really care for myself, but maybe an easy change in the settings...
But yeah I was reading the 'technical issues' section when logged out and I don't think the text view that shows up for some of us randomly has anything to do with internet speed as this is the only site I've ever had that issue with and I do have really good internet..."
The not being able to read the General Discussion section when logged in for some people is probably just a matter of permissions. The text view is such a random thing. Mine chops & changes all of the time.
Quick edit: It just switched back to HTML when I posted it *sigh*
I will check the permissions as soon as I have time
There's no hurry. Thanks, Tru. I tried this morning but I don't think I have permission to check permissions :)
I can't seem to post anything to my album. When I try to post I get the message "Undefined array key 1".
Am I doing something wrong?
@Trusylver
I also get an error message when I try and recover my password to log in. when I try and send the recovery email to reset my password I get a message about already asking for it less than 30 seconds ago but its never sent no matter how long I wait or even if its requested for the first time.
the e-mail system is a bit wonky with the hosting. I have turned off most e-mail related functions.
I will try and work out what is triggering the array problem
I haven't checked if the error was still there because I was able to look up my password on my laptops chain and got it working on my phone without the recovery. wish I stayed with my apple phone rather than getting android. all apple devices play so well together especially when passwords are concerned. Also ive never had the text view problem with my MacBook Air laptop. It uses safari browser.
I have just made a change to the Email Routing on the server, hopefully this will have an impact on the e-mail errors
Hi, Tru. I posted a message regarding text view on the Elkarte forum & got some decent feedback. The link to the conversation is here-
https://www.elkarte.net/community/index.php?topic=6359.new#new
I hope it makes sense to you :)
The forum has been in text view & behaving very weirdly for quite some time now. A few of us have been getting huge house icons that take up all of the screen and it's only rarely that we get HTML. I have noticed a few people have gone back to the old forum, mainly for that reason I think. Does anyone know anyone who could let us know what can be done to fix it?
Back when Cate started mentioning this, I was experiencing text view on my Safari (Apple IPad) from time to time, but if I "refreshed" the browser it would restore the HTML. Now that no longer happens. I do get the HTML back eventually but it seems like it's because I have gone off and left it alone for a while...like there is a session cookie which has to expire or something.
I have also noticed that if I have a session open in one tab and then open another in a second tab, it can cause the text mode to occur. I don't have much techncial knowledge but am trying to get solid ideas from Elk Art support forum and will post here.
In SUMMARY: Confirm current PHP selection and try updating to most current (8.3 or 8.4).
This was the server info Tru provided to Cate 5 months ago...
Version Information:
This version: ElkArte 1.1.9
Current version: 1.1.9
GD version: bundled (2.1.0 compatible)
Imagick version: ImageMagick 6.9.10-68 Q16 x86_64 2024-04-16 https://imagemagick.org: <https://imagemagick.org/>
MySQL version: 5.7.23-23
Alternative PHP Cache: 5.1.22
Zend OPcache: 8.2.18
PHP: 8.2.18 (litespeed)
Server version: Apache
Version Information: Linux just2013.justhost.com 4.19.286-203.ELK.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jun 14 04:33:55 CDT 2023 x86_64
Is this information still current? PHP 8.2 is now obsolete. It is not only beyond active support but it also has aged out of security support since 12/31/2024. See https://www.php.net/supported-versions.php
With all the recent changes to browser security protocols, and comments on the ElkArte thread mentioning PHP, it seems this has the potential to be the culprit. I have asked at Elke Arte forum for a "known good" PHP version for 1.1.9, but so far no responses.
justhost Tech support answered immediately and was very nice. To change the PHP version one just needs to login to their hosting account and change a setting.
Tech support also said if the site performs worse it can always be put back to 8.2 by reversing the selection in the hosting account. If Tru is running other content on this domain it will also receive the update.
Apparently justhost deals mostly with people using WordPress. Support mentioned that many Plugins and Themes people use for WordPress still only work in 8.2 so for Wordpress users they generally would recommend sticking with PHP 8.2. 8.2 is going to be sunset at justhost but they aren't doing it yet for this reason. Probably not applicable in this situation.
This content is from justhost site: https://my.justhost.com/hosting/help/php-version-selection-php-config
Ever since I did these practices the forum has stayed in HTML:
- left the system log me out after 60 minutes (default)
- did not open the forum in a 2nd window while one was already open in a browser tab
- let time elapse between logins
Thank you, Fiera for taking the time to check this out for us. Your understanding is far greater than mine and I appreciate it. Hopefully
@Trusylver will be able to update the PHP setting. I can't even try as I am not an admin.
It's a confusing issue though when you read other elkarte discussions like this one-
https://www.elkarte.net/community/index.php?topic=6361.0
I would hate this forum to just disappear!
Edited again to add a response from "Spuds" in the Elkarte forum in the thread I started there & after Fiera's query-
"Looking at the output of Cate's site, the issue is that the template/theme is returning an http:// response but the site is https:// As such the browsers are blocking the non secure items, which in that case is all of the style sheets.
Start by going to Admin -> Configuration -> Theme Management -> Theme Settings. ENSURE that the urls associated with the theme are HTTPS"
I just logged on and was in text mode so refreshed and it's in HTML. If this can happen every time I'm happy :)
This is a totally plausible explanation! Sometimes (like now) my browser is indicating "not secure". Perhaps Tru should do this first.